Discussion:
Printer profile creation: Definitive print procedure on Mac
Todd Sailor
2014-02-13 15:32:18 UTC
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Hello all,

I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing a completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC and have also tried to print from Mavericks’ Preview app, but after scanning both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS. Also, resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated (via DisplayCal) monitor’s rendition of the photo.

In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color Controls; then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I’d like to use; and finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color Management). I print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a ColorMunki.

In Photoshop, I really don’t know what to do. Should PS manage color? And if so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color, and if so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test chart print?

I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate my monitor again as well.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Ivan Tsyba
2014-02-13 15:38:19 UTC
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Try to use ACPU:
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/no-color-management-option-missing.html

or print from ColorSync: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3584510
Post by Todd Sailor
Hello all,
I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing
a completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC
and have also tried to print from Mavericks' Preview app, but after
scanning both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS.
Also, resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated
(via DisplayCal) monitor's rendition of the photo.
In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color
Controls; then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I'd like to
use; and finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color
Management). I print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a
ColorMunki.
In Photoshop, I really don't know what to do. Should PS manage color? And
if so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color,
and if so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test
chart print?
I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate
my monitor again as well.
Thanks in advance for the help!
Todd Sailor
2014-02-13 15:52:04 UTC
Permalink
Thank you!

When using the ColorSync utility, should I also under Color Options change from Manual Settings to Off (No Color Management)?
Try to use ACPU: http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/no-color-management-option-missing.html
or print from ColorSync: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3584510
Hello all,
I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing a completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC and have also tried to print from Mavericks’ Preview app, but after scanning both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS. Also, resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated (via DisplayCal) monitor’s rendition of the photo.
In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color Controls; then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I’d like to use; and finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color Management). I print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a ColorMunki.
In Photoshop, I really don’t know what to do. Should PS manage color? And if so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color, and if so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test chart print?
I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate my monitor again as well.
Thanks in advance for the help!
Ivan Tsyba
2014-02-13 15:55:18 UTC
Permalink
Most likely must be "Off" during target printing
Post by Todd Sailor
Thank you!
When using the ColorSync utility, should I also under Color Options change
from Manual Settings to Off (No Color Management)?
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/no-color-management-option-missing.html
or print from ColorSync: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3584510
Post by Todd Sailor
Hello all,
I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty
producing a completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using
Photoshop CC and have also tried to print from Mavericks' Preview app, but
after scanning both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in
PS. Also, resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my
calibrated (via DisplayCal) monitor's rendition of the photo.
In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color
Controls; then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I'd like to
use; and finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color
Management). I print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a
ColorMunki.
In Photoshop, I really don't know what to do. Should PS manage color? And
if so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color,
and if so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test
chart print?
I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate
my monitor again as well.
Thanks in advance for the help!
Alan Goldhammer
2014-02-13 16:11:32 UTC
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The only way to "guarantee" that you are printing with no color management
is to use the Adobe Color Print Utility as Ivan already noted. I'm on
Windows but I've read on numerous forums the problems that Mac users
encounter when trying to print targets. The only versions of Photoshop that
allow you to do this are CS4 and earlier; you cannot use Photoshop CC to do
this.

Alan

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To: argyllcms-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [argyllcms] Printer profile creation: Definitive print procedure on
Mac

Hello all,

I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing a
completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC and
have also tried to print from Mavericks' Preview app, but after scanning
both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS. Also,
resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated (via
DisplayCal) monitor's rendition of the photo.

In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color Controls;
then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I'd like to use; and
finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color Management). I
print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a ColorMunki.

In Photoshop, I really don't know what to do. Should PS manage color? And if
so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color, and if
so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test chart
print?

I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate my
monitor again as well.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Roger Breton
2014-02-13 18:17:09 UTC
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So what's the workflow like, using Adobe Color Utility?
I'll bet there's more information on Adobe's web site?

Thank's / Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org]
On Behalf Of Alan Goldhammer
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:12 AM
To: argyllcms-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print
procedure on Mac

The only way to "guarantee" that you are printing with no color management
is to use the Adobe Color Print Utility as Ivan already noted. I'm on
Windows but I've read on numerous forums the problems that Mac users
encounter when trying to print targets. The only versions of Photoshop that
allow you to do this are CS4 and earlier; you cannot use Photoshop CC to do
this.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org]
On Behalf Of Todd Sailor
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:32 AM
To: argyllcms-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [argyllcms] Printer profile creation: Definitive print procedure on
Mac

Hello all,

I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing a
completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC and
have also tried to print from Mavericks' Preview app, but after scanning
both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS. Also,
resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated (via
DisplayCal) monitor's rendition of the photo.

In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color Controls;
then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I'd like to use; and
finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color Management). I
print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a ColorMunki.

In Photoshop, I really don't know what to do. Should PS manage color? And if
so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color, and if
so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test chart
print?

I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate my
monitor again as well.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Alan Goldhammer
2014-02-13 18:45:38 UTC
Permalink
Just download the utility, create your test charts in ArgyllCMS the usual
way with whatever flags you use. Launch the ACPU utility and open up the
target TIFF files you created and print. The only thing you have to do is
make sure that you select the correct paper setting for your printer (type
and the size you specified in printtarg). The ACPU is not color managed.
Directions on the Adobe site that Ivan posted are pretty clear.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org]
On Behalf Of Roger Breton
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:17 PM
To: argyllcms-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print
procedure on Mac

So what's the workflow like, using Adobe Color Utility?
I'll bet there's more information on Adobe's web site?

Thank's / Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org]
On Behalf Of Alan Goldhammer
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:12 AM
To: argyllcms-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print
procedure on Mac

The only way to "guarantee" that you are printing with no color management
is to use the Adobe Color Print Utility as Ivan already noted. I'm on
Windows but I've read on numerous forums the problems that Mac users
encounter when trying to print targets. The only versions of Photoshop that
allow you to do this are CS4 and earlier; you cannot use Photoshop CC to do
this.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:argyllcms-bounce-***@public.gmane.org]
On Behalf Of Todd Sailor
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:32 AM
To: argyllcms-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [argyllcms] Printer profile creation: Definitive print procedure on
Mac

Hello all,

I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing a
completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC and
have also tried to print from Mavericks' Preview app, but after scanning
both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS. Also,
resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated (via
DisplayCal) monitor's rendition of the photo.

In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color Controls;
then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I'd like to use; and
finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color Management). I
print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a ColorMunki.

In Photoshop, I really don't know what to do. Should PS manage color? And if
so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color, and if
so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test chart
print?

I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate my
monitor again as well.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Todd Sailor
2014-02-14 00:35:46 UTC
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Here is my colprof dialog while creating my profile. Does anyone see any glaring issues/problems? Thanks much.


todds-mac-pro:bin Todd$ ./colprof -v -qh -i D50 -o 1931_2 -S AdobeRGB1998.icc -cmt -dpp -D"837 Kirkland 8x10 02-13-2014" -C"Copyright Todd Sailor 2014" a1
No total ink limit being used
No black ink limit being used
No of test patches = 675
Estimating white point
Approximate White point XYZ = 0.815508 0.849284 0.726680, Lab = 93.852246 -0.650694 -2.323923
Creating optimised per channel curves
Initial White Point XYZ 0.815508 0.849284 0.726680, Lab 93.852246 -0.650694 -2.323923
About to optimise temporary matrix
100%
About to optimise a common input curve and matrix
100%
About to optimise input curves and matrix
100%
About to optimise output curves and matrix
100%
About to optimise input curves and matrix again
100%
About to optimise input, matrix and output together
100%
About to adjust a and b output curves for white point
About to create grid position input curves
Create final clut from scattered data
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Doing White point fine tune:
Before fine tune, rel WP = XYZ 0.964267 0.999896 0.825127, Lab 99.995972 0.028964 -0.025321
After fine tune, rel WP = XYZ 0.964200 1.000000 0.824900, Lab 100.000000 0.000000 0.000000
abs WP = XYZ 0.815567 0.849195 0.726881, Lab 93.848432 -0.622964 -2.348157
Creating fast inverse input lookups
White point XYZ = 0.815567 0.849195 0.726881, Lab = 93.848432 -0.622964 -2.348157
Find black point
Black point XYZ = 0.003196 0.003174 0.003629, Lab = 2.866715 0.550729 -1.909031
Done A to B table creation
Setting up B to A table lookup
Creating Gamut Mapping
Finding Source Colorspace Perceptual Gamut
Finding Source Colorspace Saturation Gamut
Finding Destination Gamut
Creating Gamut match
Gamut Mapping Specification:
Description = ' p - Perceptual (Preferred) (Default) [ICC Perceptual]'
Closest ICC intent = 'Perceptual'
Using Color Apperance Space
Using Mapping with parameters:
Grey axis alignment factor 1.000000
Grey axis white compression factor 1.000000
Grey axis white expansion factor 1.000000
Grey axis black compression factor 1.000000
Grey axis black expansion factor 1.000000
Grey axis knee factor 1.000000
Black point algorithm: Neutral axis no-adapt extend and bend
Gamut compression factor 1.000000
Gamut expansion factor 0.000000
Gamut compression knee factor 0.800000
Gamut expansion knee factor 0.000000
Gamut Perceptual mapping weighting factor 1.000000
Gamut Saturation mapping weighting factor 0.000000
Saturation enhancement factor 0.000000
Gamut map resolution: 33
Src colorspace white/black are 100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 -0.416217 -0.251732
Src gamut white/black are 100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 -0.416217 -0.251732
Dst colorspace white/black are 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Target (blended) dst wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Adapted & extended tgt wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Rotate matrix src wp/bp = 99.999999 -2.471343 -1.494423, 6.447042 -0.479754 -0.290151
Rotate matrix dst wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Bend target bp = 6.560100 -0.376444 -0.101465
Rotated source grey axis wp/bp 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 -3.629965
Rotated gamut grey axis wp/bp 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 -3.629965
Destination axis target wp/bp 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Mapped source grey axis wp/bp 100.058983 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.421301 0.860590 -3.629965
Vertex count: mult. = 4.000000, src 1672, img 1672 dst 1393, target 6509
Average number of direction guide neigbours = 437.271956, min = 3
Optimizing source to destination mapping...
..No og 3241 max 21.126350 avg 2.194501, No ig 3010 max 11.191186 avg 1.640994
No og 2800 max 1.690070 avg 0.243427, No ig 3451 max 7.997839 avg 0.537435
No og 2383 max 0.338014 avg 0.061087, No ig 3868 max 5.906902 avg 0.133211
No og 2799 max 0.067603 avg 0.009318, No ig 3452 max 3.820848 avg 0.031177
No og 3555 max 5.536921 avg 0.331647, No ig 2696 max 3.986447 avg 0.442069, avg rext -0.002049
No og 555 max 2.972755 avg 0.209722, No ig 5696 max 4.631420 avg 0.518829, avg rext -0.002049
No og 367 max 2.451426 avg 0.184390, No ig 5884 max 4.874800 avg 0.559590, avg rext -0.002049
No og 319 max 2.439459 avg 0.180157, No ig 5932 max 5.030217 avg 0.587148, avg rext -0.002049

Creating rspl..
Fine tuning white and black point mapping
White is 98.972143 -0.895391 1.818836, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.455508 0.720456 -3.310054, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
After fine tuning:
White is 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Gamut Mapping Specification:
Description = ' s - Enhanced Saturation [ICC Saturation]'
Closest ICC intent = 'Saturation'
Using Color Apperance Space
Using Mapping with parameters:
Grey axis alignment factor 1.000000
Grey axis white compression factor 1.000000
Grey axis white expansion factor 1.000000
Grey axis black compression factor 1.000000
Grey axis black expansion factor 1.000000
Grey axis knee factor 1.000000
Black point algorithm: Neutral axis no-adapt extend and bend
Gamut compression factor 1.000000
Gamut expansion factor 1.000000
Gamut compression knee factor 1.000000
Gamut expansion knee factor 0.500000
Gamut Perceptual mapping weighting factor 0.000000
Gamut Saturation mapping weighting factor 1.000000
Saturation enhancement factor 0.900000
Gamut map resolution: 33
Src colorspace white/black are 100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 -0.416217 -0.251732
Src gamut white/black are 100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 -0.416217 -0.251732
Dst colorspace white/black are 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Target (blended) dst wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Adapted & extended tgt wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Rotate matrix src wp/bp = 99.999999 -2.471343 -1.494423, 6.447042 -0.479754 -0.290151
Rotate matrix dst wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Bend target bp = 6.560100 -0.376444 -0.101465
Rotated source grey axis wp/bp 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 -3.629965
Rotated gamut grey axis wp/bp 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 -3.629965
Destination axis target wp/bp 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Mapped source grey axis wp/bp 100.058983 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.421301 0.860590 -3.629965
Vertex count: mult. = 4.000000, src 1672, img 1672 dst 1393, target 6509
Average number of direction guide neigbours = 150.226713, min = 1
Optimizing source to destination mapping...
..No og 3902 max 8.708941 avg 0.798906, No ig 2432 max 5.186756 avg 0.577604
No og 2431 max 0.986341 avg 0.112373, No ig 3903 max 1.741788 avg 0.158914
No og 2305 max 0.278524 avg 0.027846, No ig 4029 max 0.348358 avg 0.036207
No og 2431 max 0.039454 avg 0.004349, No ig 3903 max 0.069672 avg 0.006297
No og 3212 max 3.789037 avg 0.173558, No ig 3122 max 4.093797 avg 0.195352, avg rext -0.008276
No og 1793 max 2.174002 avg 0.124617, No ig 4541 max 4.246673 avg 0.200998, avg rext -0.008276
No og 903 max 1.346490 avg 0.097519, No ig 5431 max 4.650075 avg 0.244852, avg rext -0.008276
No og 644 max 1.085923 avg 0.092585, No ig 5690 max 4.731610 avg 0.270556, avg rext -0.008276

Creating rspl..
Warning: Gamut mapping is non-monotonic - may not be very smooth !
Fine tuning white and black point mapping
White is 98.974889 -0.682368 1.440333, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.396136 0.870813 -3.454226, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
After fine tuning:
White is 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Creating B to A tables
Rev cache RAM = 6764 Mbytes
There is 1 rev cache instance with 6764 Mbytes limit
There are 2 rev cache instances with 3382 Mbytes limit
100%
Done B to A tables
Creating gamut boundary table
100%
Done gamut boundary table
There is 1 rev cache instance with 6764 Mbytes limit
Profile check complete, peak err = 3.962292, avg err = 0.447221, RMS = 0.567234
Post by Alan Goldhammer
Just download the utility, create your test charts in ArgyllCMS the usual
way with whatever flags you use. Launch the ACPU utility and open up the
target TIFF files you created and print. The only thing you have to do is
make sure that you select the correct paper setting for your printer (type
and the size you specified in printtarg). The ACPU is not color managed.
Directions on the Adobe site that Ivan posted are pretty clear.
Alan
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Roger Breton
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:17 PM
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print
procedure on Mac
So what's the workflow like, using Adobe Color Utility?
I'll bet there's more information on Adobe's web site?
Thank's / Roger
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Alan Goldhammer
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:12 AM
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print
procedure on Mac
The only way to "guarantee" that you are printing with no color management
is to use the Adobe Color Print Utility as Ivan already noted. I'm on
Windows but I've read on numerous forums the problems that Mac users
encounter when trying to print targets. The only versions of Photoshop that
allow you to do this are CS4 and earlier; you cannot use Photoshop CC to do
this.
Alan
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Todd Sailor
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:32 AM
Subject: [argyllcms] Printer profile creation: Definitive print procedure on
Mac
Hello all,
I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing a
completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC and
have also tried to print from Mavericks' Preview app, but after scanning
both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS. Also,
resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated (via
DisplayCal) monitor's rendition of the photo.
In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color Controls;
then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I'd like to use; and
finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color Management). I
print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a ColorMunki.
In Photoshop, I really don't know what to do. Should PS manage color? And if
so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color, and if
so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test chart
print?
I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate my
monitor again as well.
Thanks in advance for the help!
Nikolay Pokhilchenko
2014-02-14 05:58:07 UTC
Permalink
todds-mac-pro:bin Todd$ ./colprof -v -qh -i D50 -o 1931_2 -S AdobeRGB1998.icc -cmt -dpp -D"837 Kirkland 8x10 02-13-2014" -C"Copyright Todd Sailor 2014" a1 This is normal parameters for RGB-device, except I'd not recommend the use of AdobeRGB1998 as source space for gamut mapping. Not all of the images requires full AdobeRGB gamut. But they would suffer from some compression from AdobeRGB to printer gamut even if the images are inside the printer gamut.
Creating Gamut Mapping
Description = 'p - Enhanced Saturation [ICC Perceptual]' Optimizing source to destination mapping...
No og  319 max 2.439459 avg 0.180157, No ig 5932 max 5.030217 avg 0.587148, avg rext -0.002049 "No ig 5932 max 5.030217" if I understood correct means the compression of ~5 dE2000 in some colorspace region.
Profile check complete, peak err = 3.962292, avg err = 0.447221, RMS = 0.567234
Good. Adequate. Normal. Right.
Show us:

xicclu -v -fb -ir -pl -g a1.icc
xicclu -v -fb -ip -pl -g a1.icc

If the plots above are smooth the profile is good (takin in account low dE76). If the perceptual curves are not quite smooth there may be increasing of -r colprof parameter may required. But not likely for your device. It seems yours will be O.K.


Take a look at:

iccgamut -v -w -s a1.icc
(VRML viewer is needed).

Check dE2000:
profcheck -k -x -w -e a1.ti3 a1.icc
Nikolay Pokhilchenko
2014-02-14 06:15:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Todd Sailor
todds-mac-pro:bin Todd$ ./colprof -v -qh -i D50 -o 1931_2 -S AdobeRGB1998.icc -cmt -dpp -D"837 Kirkland 8x10 02-13-2014"
With colprof -S"" use -P parameter too. After computing the gamut mapping you'll got two VRML-files that shows the compression degree and directions.
Better use sRGB as the source space even your actual sources will be AdobeRGB. Some clipping is possible but you'll got less saturation loss due to gamut compression.
Dimitrije Zivkovic
2014-02-14 14:42:34 UTC
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"With colprof -S"" use -P parameter too.
What is -P option? I can’t find it.


Dimitrije Zivkovic

On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:15, Nikolay Pokhilchenko <nikolay_po-JGs/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Dimitrije Zivkovic
2014-02-14 14:44:58 UTC
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Sorry I just find it

Dimitrije Zivkovic
Post by Todd Sailor
todds-mac-pro:bin Todd$ ./colprof -v -qh -i D50 -o 1931_2 -S AdobeRGB1998.icc -cmt -dpp -D"837 Kirkland 8x10 02-13-2014"
With colprof -S"" use -P parameter too. After computing the gamut mapping you'll got two VRML-files that shows the compression degree and directions.
Better use sRGB as the source space even your actual sources will be AdobeRGB. Some clipping is possible but you'll got less saturation loss due to gamut compression.
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